Posted by: Richard Neale | April 4, 2011

Llyndy: Threat & Price Questions

I’ve been following the discussion on the Trust’s Facebook site and noted a couple of questions that perhaps you have been thinking.

If Llyndy Isaf is in the National Park, is it already protected?

Yes…and well, no.

The National Park authority is also the planning authority.  It controls developments that could threaten the park by ensuring that they satisfy the local plan.   However, it is sometimes difficult to control bit-by-bit development of existing low-key sites – such as the campsite at Llyndy Isaf – and the authority does not currently have powers to control water sports, including powerboating on lakes such as Llyn Dinas.

We all know places in our countryside that have been developed within the rules of the plan (sometimes with old or established permissions) that have compromised our landscape.

The safest way of ensuring that somewhere is looked after is ownership and the National Trust will look after it forever.

Just as important to me is the positive management that the Trust carries out on its properties.  I will be giving you some local examples of this in this blog.

Is £1m the market value of Llyndy Isaf farm?

The campaign to raise £1m by the end of the year, and secure Llyndy for the nation, is to cover the purchase price and some of the most important conservation work that needs doing.  This includes mending eroded paths, introducing native breeds of cattle to graze the habitats and providing information for visiting educational groups.

Even with these additional improvements on top of the purchase price, £1m still represents good value for money.  The owner, Ken Owen is on record saying that he knows he could get more if he put it on the open market but wants to see the Trust look after the farm in the future.

All we have to do now is to make his wishes come true and raise the funds!



  1. As a member of NT and also a farmer in North Wales I am concerned that the laguage used in the Appeal implies that farming, and by default farmers, are bad for the environment and sensitive areas such as Llyndy Isaf. Using “saving” as a reason shows poor judgement and will probably encourage non-farmers to think that all farmers actively seek to destroy the land on which they not only run a food production business but also live with their families – our shop floor is our home. I wish you well with the Appeal and sincerely hope that letting the farm to provide a much needed starter unit is in the future plans. Much help and support is needed to protect and encourage family farming in Wales which is the way that Llyndy Isaf and Snowdonia became what they are today.

    • Many thanks, Karen for giving me the opportunity to set the story straight. In our opinion, the main threat to Llyndy Isaf comes from it being purchased by someone wanting to develop the site for non-farming use. Most of the National Trust’s countryside is managed by tenant farmers that do a wonderful job in caring for the environment and producing high quality produce. If we succeed with the appeal, then this will give an opportunity for a farmer to work with us to help care for the woods, heath, wetlands and meadows, whilst also making a living and contributing to the local community.

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